This is our story on trying to start a family, Hoping for a happy ending

Our path to parenthood that lead to IVF/ICSI & a WHOLE lot more

Tuesday, 13 March 2012

Infertility Etiquette: What Not to Say to Someone Trying to Conceive

Read the article below online & thought it was great, been in a lot of the situations they describe & wish I had a dollar for every time someone told me having a family was not THAT important & to be grateful for the life I have etc.....

Many don't think before they speak & this article is helpful, sometimes just a simply empathetic sorry would be great............


MAYBE THIS ARTICLE WILL PREVENT YOU SUFFERING FOOT IN MOUTH DISEASE!



For some women, getting pregnant is enjoyable and almost effortless. But for others, the road to conception can be difficult — sometimes impossible. In fact, more than 7 million women in the United States are either unable to get pregnant at all or unable to carry a baby to term, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. These women face
infertility struggles that can completely take over their lives, both physically and emotionally. Someone in your world — a co-worker, a friend, a relative — may be dealing with infertility right now, and the tactfulness and sensitivity you show in your interactions could make or break your relationship.
Knowing what to say or not say to someone coping with fertility struggles can be difficult, especially since she may not give you any clues. Plus, what’s comforting to one person might be hurtful to someone else. There’s no hard rule on infertility etiquette, but these tips, from both experts and real women struggling to get pregnant, may help.

The Importance of Empathy

Nobody knows the pain of infertility better than women who are going through it themselves. Take, for example, Amy Miller (not her real name), a public relations professional in San Francisco. Miller has experienced the impact of four rounds of unsuccessful infertility treatments — the first resulted in the loss of twins at 20 weeks, the second failed to take, the third resulted in a blighted ovum, and the fourth also failed to take — all while “dozens of our friends, family, and other people around us popped out babies like it was the easiest thing in the world,” she says.
Miller’s first piece of advice for people who know someone facing infertility is just to say something. “Even if you don’t know what to say, simply saying ‘I’m sorry’ is better than saying nothing at all,” she says. “People wanted to give us our space, but that just made us feel more isolated.”
Sarah Smith (not her real name), an entrepreneur in New York City who has been dealing with infertility for a year and a half, agrees. “I just want a little empathy — a ‘That sucks’ or even ‘At least you can still have a beer,’” she says. “I would rather they try to relate than not say anything.”
Mary Hinckley, MD, a reproductive endocrinologist at the Reproductive Science Center in the San Francisco Bay area, also stresses the importance of acknowledging a situation as life-altering as infertility. “At some point, the fertile friend should address the issue in private by telling her friend struggling with infertility that she cannot begin to understand how hard it is but that she is available to talk about the situation,” Hinckley says.
Beyond lending an ear, Dr. Hinckley also recommends spending quality time with your friend. “Get a baby-sitter for your kids, and go out to a movie or to dinner or join a jogging club or yoga class together,” she suggests. “Psychological studies show that distraction can sometimes be the best strategy for infertility sadness in the short term.”

Infertility Faux Pas

Equally important is knowing what not to say to a friend facing an infertility struggle. Prevent foot-in-mouth disease by steering clear of these dialogue disasters:
Have you tried _____? “I hate when people start asking me: ‘Have you had this test? Have you tried acupuncture? Have you had your husband’s sperm tested?’” says Smith. “Yes, we’ve had the tests, and, yes, we are exploring our options. I would rather not discuss the details of infertility treatments unless you have real expertise on the subject. It’s so annoying and, frankly, insensitive.”
Hinckley says offering advice may make the recipient feel like the advice giver doesn’t think she is smart or motivated enough to seek help. “However, if the friend facing infertility is feeling lost or depressed or doesn’t know what to do or what is normal, asking open-ended questions and listening may be the best thing you can offer,” she says.
I’m pregnant! Yay! “If you become pregnant yourself, be careful about how you tell a person who’s dealing with infertility,” Miller says. “We had some friends who denied a pregnancy when we noticed a baby’s room during a visit to their home and then called us all chipper a few days later to break the news, which was hurtful. Another friend called my husband and calmly said, ‘We wanted to tell you we are expecting, and we hope it’s not awkward for you,’ which was a much more sensitive way to handle it.”
Here — hold the baby! “If a friend undergoing infertility treatment is strong enough to visit you after you’ve given birth, don’t shove the baby in her arms,” Miller says. “Instead, ask if she wants to hold the baby, and be understanding of the fact that her reaction might be different from that of someone who is not dealing with infertility.”
It will all work out.
Hinckley says that "dismissive statements such as these can minimize the pain and sadness of someone who is going through infertility treatment." Also not sensitive is "suggesting they ‘go on vacation and just have sex every day.'"
It’s better if you just move on. “You should never tell someone facing infertility that they should just get over it,” Miller says. “They will get that feedback from support groups filled with people going through the same infertility struggles.”
Overall, when it comes to infertility etiquette, it’s best to step into the shoes of your friend and try to understand how you would feel if you were faced with certain comments, says Fran Praver, PhD, a clinical psychologist in Locust Valley, N.Y., and author of The New Science of Love: How Understanding Your Brain's Wiring Can Help Rekindle Your Relationship. “Would you want to hear a friend complain about a past pregnancy, push adoption, or tell you to relax?” she asks. Think about what would make you feel hurt versus what would make you feel understood and supported if you were the one facing infertility, she suggests. Such empathy is key to maintaining the relationship.
On a positive note, Miller says that if any good has come from her infertility struggle, it’s that it has taught her and her husband to express more of the empathy they crave from others. “We are able to more sensitively talk to people dealing with death and other losses in their lives,” she says. “So, in that way, infertility has made us better people.”

Friday, 9 March 2012

Finally Getting Face to Face With My Angel For A Flying Visit To Get Started

For weeks now we had been counting down to 6 March, this was the day our angel & her fiance were flying up to meet us & do the first round of donor appointments so we could get the ball (or should I say eggs?) rolling.

Their flight landed at 6.30am and I woke about 5 minutes before the alarm excited as today was the day, quick showers & grooming were done & we flew out the front door & headed to the airport. Then I checked my phone to see I had a text saying they flight had been delayed by an hour. We decided to make a pit stop at McDonald's for a coffee & while leaving, I slipped & fell on the wet ground and banged up my knee. (Lucky H was hanging on to me) - blood was pouring but all I could think about was am I OK & is nothing broken (as per my last fall). Off the ground & some quick first aid & some ice & we were back on our way to the airport.

Our Angel & her fiance arrived and it was so good to meet face to face, we headed into the city to get the appointments underway and grab some breakfast. We all got along really well & were too busy exchanging stories about their kids, things we had in common & life in general to discuss the egg business.

First stop was Dr J, by the time I got to her room our quick patch up of my knee was falling off & bleeding again so she took great delight in doing some real doctoring and patching me up properly. In they went for their appointment with Dr J & after about 40 mins, Dr J called us in to have a quick chat. Dr J was thrilled with our angel and  started writing up my treatment plan, as she was doing it she only put down 1 embryo to be transferred back into me & I corrected her saying we normally have 2. Dr J explained that with our Angel being so young & fertile there is a risk of 2 dividing & becoming 4 which would be  health risk not only to me, but the babies. Dr J is the expert so I said "whatever you think is best". We see Dr J for a more extensive check up on 14 March.

Next stop was tons of blood being drawn from our Angel who was very brave about it all then on to the fertility clinic for an hour session there with the nurses to go through all the details of the drugs she will be taking etc...

Break in the schedule so as our couple have never been to Brisbane we hit the city centre & did a quick tour & some shopping & grabbed a spot of lunch all the while chatting non stop. Last appointment for the day was there session with the counsellor. We waited & once that hour was up it was some free time to relax before heading back to the airport.

The next step is the 2 week mandatory cooling off period, then we all have to have a joint counselling session which our counsellor has kindly agree to do via skype to save the guys another plane trip up. This session is 20 March & hopefully soon after that we can have our cycles in synch & start this process.

We had our angel & her fiance back to our house & showed them around our area a little, as they get married in September we got into some girly things like looking at our wedding album & invitations, discussing dresses, shoes etc.....  We had a snack & were all chatting away non stop when H said "its time to head to the airport" we were having such a nice time I didn't want to let them leave.

It was a fabulous day/experience & not for the reason you would assume (that being I have someone to donate their eggs to us). it really was a lovely day & H & I both loved spending time with this great & fun couple who if we had met any other way would be friends for sure.

Now the waiting, 20 March seems like forever away - Angel is impatient like me too and we both want to start NOW. Hopefully its soon.....

This experience & all the fears I had were unfounded & it has turned out completely different than how I ever imagined.

Saturday, 18 February 2012

Getting to know you, getting to know all about you......





I'm so thrilled with the angel that found us, not only is she doing something so incredible for us but getting to know her more over the past few weeks she is a fun & fabulous girl whom if we'd met any other way I know we would have become fast friends. I could wax lyrical for hours & write non stop about how lovely she is, not because she is doing this but because we have so much in common BUT I will try to keep this post not too long.

This is a first for us both, we are the first couple she has donated to. After reading so much online about what a lot of potential donors want & expect from the recipient & the future relationship they have with the child I was a little scared, some donors treat egg donation almost treat it like adoption & want regular visits & all kinds of things that scared me a little.

Since our first contact our angel (who we shall call A) started emailing pretty much non stop about all kinds of things. Firstly there was a lot of info about the process & arranging times for her to come to us seeing she lives in another state. But we also started just talking like girls in general do & found we had an awful lot in common. A is getting married later in the year so we have talked a lot about her wedding & wear to find things & talking about things we did all those years ago to save money. Our emails were certainly not stiff & informal and I spoke to A like I do anyone & I'm pretty sure that's how she spoke with me.

She asked if it would be OK if we had a chat on the phone & I thought why not? & was quite excited by the idea. She called me on her birthday (we knew it was her birthday from all the info she provided for us to give to Dr J & the clinic, so we had sent her a birthday card as a surprise!) when she called she was driving to the Zoo & we ended up talking for her whole trip (nearly an hour). There was never once an awkward pause (wish talking to boys on the phone as a teenager had been this easy) and neither of us drew breath.

Besides talking a little about some of the technical things & what to expect with her appointments on Mar 6 we discussed anything & everything. We have a mutual love of Twilight & are both Team Edward, love a great bargain, talked about how we met our partners, in fact we covered so many topics & bounced from one thing to the next I can't remember them all. When we said goodbye I had a huge smile on my face as I had enjoyed out chat so much. She also got a lovely surprise with our birthday card!

The emails continued & text's which often had nothing to do with IVF & donation, and as she has found another couple to be an Angel for after us, there clinic has asked her a lot of questions about donor/recipient relationships going forward & she sent them to me asking would I mind answering but it was OK if I didn't want to. I will post the questions on a separate page as they maybe of use to someone else looking for a donor. A had already put her answers down the bottom of the email but I went ahead and filled it out & then read her answers. We were totally in sync with everything, from what type of future contact we would both like to what would happen with excess embryos etc....

Thursday the phone went out of the blue and it was A, I think we racked up a 90 minute call this time!! We discussed the questions a little bit more & there was one questions she hadn't included as she felt funny about it & it was along the lines of how the child would be raised, religion, discipline etc..  she said she had discussed this with her partner & they both felt although the child is biologically half hers, that she is donating an egg not giving away a baby & apart fron the fact they hoped the child was not going into an abusive home, they didn't really feel they had a say in the raising of the child.

I was happy to discuss this question with her anyway & told her as we have been trying since 2007 we already  had ideas on how we would raise a child, even what school it will attend etc...  I even told her when she comes up she will see the school we have picked as its right near our home & our neighbours children attend. We could have been two peas in a pod, as everything I said we wanted for our child & how we would like to raise it is almost exactly how they raise & discipline there children. On a funny note her mother is very supportive of her doing this & would loved to have been a donor herself but time got away, she kids my Angel that I am going to give her the girl she has wanted seeing she let her down by having boys!!! (joking of course) I think that is very cute!!

After that we discussed stories about growing up, favourite foods, hair styles, clothes, hunky actors & had a typical female conversation that was fun & again left me hanging up in a very good mood & smiling from ear to ear.

As we friended each other on facebook (she told me I could delete her if I didn't want to stay friends) I said that would be a great way if we are blessed with a successful pregnancy, going forward over the years for her to see pictures of the child etc... & email or call me if she wants any copies to keep. We both expressed we would like to meet up after the baby is born as if it was not for her, I wouldn't have the child but I also feel it would be very rewarding for her to see the family she helped create. We discussed staying in contact as we are now (may be less often is she has donors she has to concentrate her time on) & catching up from time to time whenever the opportunity arises (seeing we live in different states) and various other things we were 100% in agreement with going forward. We are both super excited & counting down the days till Mar 6 (which now it not far off) & we can't wait to meet in person.

H & I were both so scared & anxious heading down this path of finding a donor, getting to know a stranger & the chances of getting on with them under any circumstance can be rare, yet to put an advert out there seeking for someone to donate their eggs for you to have a family & the chances you get on with this person & have similar ideals & values - I didn't think that would happen. Once again fate has looked after me & I really must have my own angel looking out for me as back in 96 fate arranged for H & I to meet & now she has not let me down & looked after me again by sending me the most amazing angel egg donor.

Whoever you are, my angel up there THANK YOU xoxo

Monday, 6 February 2012

A Song that inspires & means so much to me.....

The first time I heard this song was after our second failed round of IVF, Katy Perry's new album came out that week & H got it for me to cheer me up as I'm a big fan & have been since I saw her in a small, intimate show back in 2009 before she became the huge star she is now.

This song started & as I listened to the lyrics I started to cry as the first verse put into words EXACTLY how I was feeling, the second verse gave me hope. Eventually Katy released it as a single and it was everywhere and it would always stop me in my tracks when I heard it, it felt like she had crawled inside my head and stolen my thoughts about how I felt with the failures & miscarriages and also the hope I had for the future.

When we saw Katy live on her California Dreams tour last year & she sang it saying it was her favourite song, it felt like she was singing it just for me & I sang word for word with her & suddenly had tears stream down my face (& I don't get emotional over a song - it was just the meaning and I was in a 2 week wait at the time - which turned out to be another negative).

I'm hoping one day I can share this song with the little miracle that will come into our lives & explain to them what it means to me & how it was about my journey to bring them into my life. Thank you Katy for summing up how I feel & giving me hope, you or no one else will never understand how much this song means to me.

So here are the Lyrics to Firework:

Do you ever feel like a plastic bag
Drifting through the wind, wanting to start again?
Do you ever feel, feel so paper thin
Like a house of cards, one blow from caving in?

Do you ever feel already buried deep?
Six feet under screams but no one seems to hear a thing
Do you know that there's still a chance for you
'Cause there's a spark in you?

You just gotta ignite the light and let it shine
Just own the night like the 4th of July

'Cause baby, you're a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go, oh
As you shoot across the sky

Baby, you're a firework
Come on, let your colours burst
Make 'em go, oh
You're gonna leave 'em falling down

You don't have to feel like a waste of space
You're original, cannot be replaced
If you only knew what the future holds
After a hurricane comes a rainbow

Maybe you're reason why all the doors are closed
So you could open one that leads you to the perfect road
Like a lightning bolt, your heart will blow
And when it's time, you'll know

You just gotta ignite the light and let it shine
Just own the night like the 4th of July

'Cause baby you're a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go, oh
As you shoot across the sky

Baby, you're a firework
Come on, let your colours burst
Make 'em go, oh
You're gonna leave 'em falling down

Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
It's always been inside of you, you, you
And now it's time to let it through

'Cause baby you're a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go, oh
As you shoot across the sky

Baby, you're a firework
Come on, let your colours burst
Make 'em go, oh
You're gonna leave 'em falling down

Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon

Now listen to Katy sing it & the lovely video that goes with it.

Saturday, 28 January 2012

Over the moon thank's to an amazing Angel finding us

We are over the moon - thanks to our Angel

The timing of things can really be unbelievable at times, just when things seem impossible something incredible happens.

On 17 Jan H & I had our appointment with the fertility clinic nurses to go through the whole donor egg process, how it works & all the info you needed. It was a very overwhelming overload of info during the course of 1.5 hours that left H & I with our heads spinning.

While sitting there with the nurse, I happened to gaze out the window and observe the wet, gloomy day & it struck me. It was approx 3 years ago we had sat in this office with a nurse on a day just like this, going through all the info to start IVF & how it would be the answer to our prayers. I became very upset that 3 years on, here we were with no family & now going down a path neither of us had imagined. I had made posts on several websites seeking an egg donor angel since early Dec 2011 when Dr J advised that was the next step to make. I'd had no responses or even any questions.

Realising it was 3 years & all the info the clinic had provided made it seem like finding a donor was going to be quite hard, my emotions just built up and when we left the appointment & H was going to get the car I started crying and couldn't stop. I felt, sad, angry, frustrated but most of all scared we would never have a chance to have the family we want so badly.

This turned into a very bad anxiety attack and H drove me home & decided to work from home that day just to be around to support me. When the dust had settled I was then very mad at myself for being as I perceive it 'being weak' and getting that upset. The following day we happened to already have an appointment with Dr K booked and it was great timing to be able to go in & talk about how I was feeling. Dr K reassured me I was not 'weak' & that I was coping very well. It was nice to be given some coping advice and also to be told your fears & reactions to this type of stress are totally NORMAL.

I got home from the appointment feeling pretty drained as talking about everything got me (obviously) very emotional again & H and I had a big discussion later that day about our hopes of finding an egg donor and doing our best to stay positive & hope for a miracle. Exhausted & with a headache from 2 days of crying on & off I went to bed & crashed.

I woke up about 9pm & had some late dinner with H, while he was getting it I checked my emails & couldn't believe what was in my in box - it was an email from a young woman saying she had completed her family and would love to help us by being our donor & were we interested and where to from here as this is the first time she's been a donor. I literally screamed at H to come & read the email & we of course replied straight away.

I went to sleep that afternoon (without trying to sound too dramatic) exhausted & in the depths of despair and then I woke up to find a MIRACLE in my in box.

For the next few day's we exchanged email's (lots of them) our Angel has read this blog and was lovely to email with (with a great sense of humour!) I keep the blog anonymous so I hope our Angel doesn't mind she will just be called Angel (you know who you are lovely!) This amazing woman is in her mid 20's and has two darling's of her own under 3. She has wanted to be a donor since she was 19 but Dr's recommend you have completed your own family before becoming a donor. She understands the need for donors due to a friend needing a sperm donor to have her family I'll quote from one of her emails:  "I have a close friend that has needed a sperm donor for all of her babies, and thank goodness there are donors otherwise she would never have had her family, and this chick was born to have a tribe of kids LOL, I'm so happy I can help, its making me smile all day at the moment."

After lots of emails,info & photo's being exchanged we are thrilled and can't believe this one has chosen us to be the first couple she donates too. Everything from the first email has fallen into place perfectly and we both keep saying it's really like this is meant to be & it's the perfect fit!

So our Angel lives in another state and to start the process for her to officially become our donor the first things that need to happen are:

H & I have a counselling appointment which is scheduled for Mon 30 Jan , we also had an appointment with Dr J booked for 2 Feb which we made back in December.

Our Angel needs to come up with her other half and:

Have a 1 hour appointment with Dr J
A range of blood tests (sorry in advance hon!!)
An hour long session with the fertility clinic nurses
An hour long session with the counsellor



Once all the appointments on 6 Mar are completed, there is a mandatory 2 week 'cooling off' period for our Angel.  (this is a government/law requirement). Once the 2 weeks is up, all four of us have to attend a counselling session all together (to make life easier the counsellor has already agreed that we can do this session without them having to fly up again, they can phone in and join the session via speakerphone whilst we are present). We need to check, but I think there may possibly be another few weeks cooling off period - either way once all this is done our gorgeous Angel & I can start our first donor cycle together.

Talk about the kindness of strangers, a huge heart & the most amazing gift a person can ever give to another. We can't thank her enough already for just offering to do this for us.

Exciting, hopeful & happy times ahead.

Sunday, 1 January 2012

A year ago today & Goodbye 2011.....




A year ago today H & I were in so much emotional pain from the cruel blow of our Second miscarriage, our New Years eve & confirmation of our longed for baby celebratory plans were forgotten & we both went to bed early, exhausted, miserable and hoping 2011 would be a great year seeing 2010 had ended so badly.

Unfortunately that was not to be, 2011 I am glad to see the back of you. I will not re-cap what 2011 was like for us with IVF, further miscarriages, surgeries & ill health. (if you've read the blog, you know the story!)  Emotionally 2011 has been one of the hardest years both H & I have ever had to deal with.

One thing I did learn is that no matter what obstacles present themselves, H & I both still passionately want a child/children in our lives & we will keep going & try anything to achieve this. I leaned that H who I always thought of as my best friend & and amazing human is even more incredible than I ever thought. We got each other through the year, H more often than not being the one getting me through. To quote a line from what is 'our song' and the song we had our first dance to at our wedding "you were my strength when I was weak, you were my voice when I couldn't speak". I have known of couples an issue like this drives a wedge between, not us. If anything we are even stronger than I thought ever possible.

I also found some comfort, support & friendship via a forum & of all places twitter. When I decided to start tweeting a little about what I was going through, others followed me and offered support or had a story of there own to share with me to inspire. You know who you are & your tweets, messages, texts etc... have been a huge help in my being able to cope. Some day's your messages/tweets etc... have been the extra thing I needed to help me make it through that day, so thank you from the bottom of my heart.

I give myself a very hard time & call myself weak and feel I should cope better. But what is the correct way to cope? Your body crazy with hormones, countless procedures, constantly ill from your immune system being weakened by treatment then the fall out after another miscarriage or negative result. Maybe I should stop & listen to H, Dr J, Dr K & many of my friends & acquaintances who call me brave & tell me they don't know how they would do it & think I am coping very well considering everything. Hmmmmmmmmmm whys it so hard to say to myself "you are doing well, considering"?

2011 is officially over & although I would not put my hand up to repeat it, I guess I did learn some valuable lessons. Tonight we went out for New Years Eve and celebrated the end of the year and the hope & promise of 2012.

2012 is starting by going into the unknown & looking for an egg donor. We have appointments for counselling & with our clinic lined up in January to give us more information & help with the process. Yes we are praying for a miracle, to find a donor & for a successful pregnancy BUT I have to accept I have no control over this and just go where this journey takes me.

I love music & always have, it is something that is a huge part of my life. Several songs over the past year have really stood out to me & have had special meaning to me & I have mentioned them in other posts.

For 2012 I would like to live by the message in Guy Sebastian's new song Don't worry, be happy. If you have not heard it, give it a listen. Some really great lyrics & also a video showing a day a lot of us may have had. Thanks for the inspiration to start the new year Guy.




Happy New Year to you all & no matter what dreams you have, I hope yours come true as much as I want mine too. 

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